THE UPN SUMMER PRESS TOUR

July 27, 1995

KATE MULGREW
Star

ROBERT BELTRAN
Star

ROXANN BIGGS-DAWSON
Star

JENNIFER LIEN
Star

ETHAN PHILLIPS
Star

ROBERT PICARDO
Star

TIM RUSS
Star

RICK BERMAN
Executive Producer

MICHAEL PILLER
Executive Producer

JERI TAYLOR
Executive Producer

The Ritz-Carlton Huntington Hotel
Pasadena, California

MICHAEL SULLIVAN
Fired up and miked up here, I will introduce the cast and producers of our flagship show, "Star Trek:Voyager," proceeding from my left across, Executive Producer Rick Berman, Robert Beltran, [laughter] Co-Executive Producer Robert Beltran, no. Jennifer Lien, Ethan Phillips, Kate Mulgrew, Robert Picardo, Roxann Biggs-Dawson, Tim Russ and Executive Producer-Writers Jeri Taylor and Michael Piller.

And now let's take a little clip look at year two for "Voyager."

[CLIP:"STAR TREK: VOYAGER"]

SULLIVAN
We'll throw it open now to your questions.

QUESTION
What has been the impact on you, have you attended any conventions, and what has been the reaction of people running into you, let's say at the supermarket in your everyday life?

KATE MULGREW
It has happily been rather slow, for lack of a better word. I think, and I hope that Janeway is -- I have developed and helped make Janeway a very different character from who I am in my own life. So, I enjoy an anonymity and the same sort of comfortable life I've always lived.

The conventions were very interesting to me. I mean you're carried on this cloud of such love and support, it's quite extraordinary. I've enjoyed it enormously.

QUESTION
And to follow up, the fan mail that comes in, is it mostly from young girls or do young boys identify with your very dynamic character?

MULGREW
There's a pretty broad cross-section. I would say women of my age. We will not mention that in this room [laughter] but I would say very young women. [laughter] A lot of women, a lot of boys 14-18. I get some young girls, but it's usually I think the mother who's been inspired to write in, which delights me.

QUESTION
Is the doctor finally going to get a name this year?

ROBERT PICARDO
I have been asked this question so many times that I have written an open letter to Rick Berman, Michael Piller and Jeri Taylor, which I now read at conventions as a way of fending off the question in the future.

I hope I get a name this season, I don't know in point of fact if and when I will, but I've suggested to our producers that because it was so popular when they shrank me down to the size of a fire hydrant last season, that they do that again in an upcoming episode and I chose the name Dr. Ruth. [laughter]

QUESTION
Let me ask, just for anyone, the last time we saw you, you had just started filming and none of you had much of an idea what this would take just as far as hours and quirks and so forth and makeup and all the many details. So I was just wondering, now that you've been into it for awhile, what surprised you, been different, harder, easier than you thought.

And if that's too broad, let me just ask it to Ethan and then just anybody else jump in who's also got a thought on it.

ETHAN PHILLIPS
What has surprised me? Uh, uh, uh, oh, ah, you know I'm just surprised by the whole thing, is surprising to me on a minute-by-minute basis. I think that what surprises me the most is how surprised I am [laughter] by it. [stutters]

MULGREW
What are you doing?

PHILLIPS
Personally, I feel that I'm uh uh, let me know, let me be articulate here, let me state that the hours surprised me. They are long, I think it probably has the longest hours of any show on television. The conventions have surprised me, by the adulation and support that Kate talked about and I see the people in these convention rooms, and I think I have never seen so many less cynical people gathered in one room in my life.

You know this whole thing about "get a life" to these Trekkers that people say. I go, they have a life and they get together and it's a stimulating, warm environment. They form clubs that help charities in terms of time and money. They're intelligent, wonderful, hopeful people and so I say, yeah, they have a life, you know. It's an alternative reality, but everybody has an alternative reality. Particularly me. [laughter] I'm just surprised.

QUESTION
A question for a couple of you, if you don't mind, and also particularly for Kate Mulgrew. When we saw you in January, you folks were all sort of getting used to the idea of becoming "Star Trek" characters, cultural icons in a way. It's been, what seven, eight months now and I'm wondering how much you're digesting that and sort of how it's affecting your psyche. I mean, do you walk into a dark room and then wonder why the lights didn't automatically go on, that sort of thing. [laughter]

MULGREW
Yes, that happens often. It's only affected me in an extremely positive way, because I love Janeway so much. I can't wait to get to work, so for me it's a laboratory of excellent proportions and my life, as I said before, is my life, so I've considered certainly since I got this job that I have absolutely the best of both worlds.

QUESTION
And for some of you folks, how is this sort of emerging icon status affected you other than Mr. Phillips' obvious--

MULGREW
Surprise. [laughter]

PICARDO
Endless surprise.

TIM RUSS
Endless surprise, articulate surprise. I've noticed --what I noticed right off the bat were there were a lot of friends of mine and friends of friends who "came out of the closet" quote/unquote in fandom that were just major fans of the show, and I had no idea that they watched the show at all.

And I kept getting responses from my family members, the same thing, they would say that half the people in my office are major fans of the show. That was the most striking thing to me, that I noticed that there are a lot of people out there that watch the show and you do get a sense of -- when you say, I'm on "Star Trek," anything "Star Trek" related, that people immediately tune in. They know -- even if they've never seen the show before, they know this show, they know what it's about. And that is really incredible. It's an incredible feeling.

ROXANN BIGGS-DAWSON
I think the biggest difference in my life has been with my family. When I first brought a picture home to my parents and showed them a Polaroid of a test make-up of B'Elanna as we were developing, going through the many stages in terms of finding her. And I sat down a dinner and showed the Polaroid to my father and he just started laughing hysterically and said, who got you this job? [laughter]

And now I go home and he shows about 10 pictures in front of me to sign before I even say hello. [laughter] So it's really changed, my relationship with him.

QUESTION
For the producers, Ms. Salhany said this morning that although a ratings drop was expected, the ratings fell much further and faster than UPN had hoped. And outside of the "Star Trek" conventions, the reaction to the show has not been unanimously positive. Is there anything you're planning to do this year to stop that trend?

MULGREW
That's the first I've heard of that.

MICHAEL PILLER
Well, I would say that we're continuing to do what we've always done, which is to create the strongest possible creative vision for the show and doing quality television week after week and hoping that our audience will find us.

We're very happy with the creative quality of the show. I think that there are a lot of reasons for the ratings drop-off, one of which I think has to look at the rerun scheduling.

We've gotten a lot of letters telling us that they're very unhappy with the number of reruns that they're seeing.

JERI TAYLOR
The research has given us the most positive response possible. People love these characters, they love the stories, they want more of the same, they want to find out what's going to happen to these people in the second season. So our goal, as always, has been to tell the most wondrous, magical stories we can, and that's what we'll keep doing.

RICK BERMAN
I think to some degree the numbers fell due to the series going rather quickly into reruns, which had a lot to do with the way the show was kicked off and how it was going to evolve into its second season in terms of scheduling. But I think that that played a large factor in all this.

QUESTION
One of the challenges of your franchise is that, you know, they're so many light years away that it's hard to have other characters come visit or join them, like I suppose Michael Dorn couldn't just pop into this show like he can into "Deep Space Nine."

I'm wondering if you're thinking a couple of years down the line, if it would be interesting to see the process where these people were reintegrated after this experience into Federation life, by finding their way back to wherever it is that it all came from.

BERMAN
You're giving away the opening episode of our llth season. [laughter]

TAYLOR
We don't think two years down the line, actually. We let the story unfold and tell itself. We knew that one of the risks that we took when we developed this show was in cutting off the audience from everything that was familiar. But we felt that that was a good thing to do. It challenged us creatively.

The Alpha Quadrant was getting to be a little bit like "Mr. Roger's Neighborhood." It was very cosy, very comfortable, you knew everybody. That sense of the unknown, of the wonder, the excitement, was not necessarily there. So we feel the franchise is working, it is our responsibility to populate the Delta Quadrant with fascinating new aliens which will be just as interesting to the audience eventually as the Klingons are to them now.

PILLER
And that's a commitment we've made for this season, to really open up and meet the aliens and the canvas of this quadrant. We met the Kazon last year and we have been formulating quite a deep investigation of their culture that will turn them, I think, into perhaps one of the top five adversarial alien races in "Star Trek" history.

BERMAN
I think it's also important to note that when you're doing "Star Trek," anything can happen, really. So we have wormholes and we have alternate realities and parallel universes. And Robby McNeill and Garrett Wang, the reason they're not here right now is because they're on stage doing an episode that does deal in a rather unique way with what's going on back on Earth.

QUESTION
Another question. At the risk of sounding a bit like a Trek conventioneer, there is one character from Episode 19 --no, [laughter] one character from the old "Star Trek," or from "Next Generation" who could actually come out to the Delta Quadrant, and that's Q. Have you thought at all about introducing Q at some level?

TAYLOR
We've given it a great deal of thought and tried to figure out if that is appropriate or not. There are serious questions as to whether it is, even though he is acknowledged as a very popular character, first of all you ask the question, why would Q appear on "Voyager," does he only go to star ships that have their own series? [laughter]

And beyond that, what more could we do with Q? It would not be enough creatively to have him repeat the same kind of relationship with Captain Janeway and the crew of Voyager as he did with Piccard in the Enterprise. If he just drops in to bedevil humans, I think that's an arc we've played out. So, if we come up with a wonderful story or a wonderful reason to bring Q in, if there's a good creative reason, if we can develop a relationship that would seem appropriate, and not just falling back on the same kind of thing just because he's there, then of course we'll do it.

QUESTION
For any of the producers, if you could whet our appetites a little bit of the upcoming stories in the new season. Also, what decisions had to be made to bring Michael Dorn back into the "Star Trek" fold? And I had heard from Sharon Lawrence, there's a great upcoming episode where she gets to meet Kate. Could you tell us a little bit about that?

BERMAN
Well, to start backwards, the episode that will be leading off our second season is a show called "The Thirty-Sevens," and Sharon plays Amelia Earhart in it, and it's a wonderful story and we're looking forward to the response.

TAYLOR
In terms of upcoming stories, one of the things that we want to do this season is to parcel out our big action-adventure shows over the course of the season. Last year we kind of front-loaded and then evolved into a series of smaller interior shows.

We'd like to keep the franchise of the show, which is we're out there in the unknown, we don't know what's coming around the next star or the next nebula. They will be monsters out there, what are we going to run into, and to space some of those bigger action, shoot 'em-up kinds of adventures throughout the season.

We feel that we left the characters of some of the people undeveloped toward the latter part of the season, one of those being Chakotay, and for that reason a very early episode this season will be one which features Chakotay in a wonderful, really rip-roaring yarn that's full of action and adventure and pathos.

Tom Paris is another one that we wanted to do something with early on, and we're going to start shooting next week on a wonderful kind of two-person charming story between Tom Paris and Neelix. And beyond that, we've got lots of things that will keep people interested.

QUESTION
And about Michael Dorn?

PILLER
Well, Michael Dorn's on another show. He won't even--

BERMAN
I didn't think we were here to talk about "Deep Space Nine," so, I don't know if that's really appropriate.

PILLER
I will say Dwight Schultz, as Barclay, will be making an appearance on an episode in which the Doctor wakes up and finds the ship is empty and he's got to figure out exactly why, how and what to do about it. And it takes a number of interesting quizzical turns.

TAYLOR
We have an episode in which Kes goes into heat, basically. [laughter] I know you'll all want to be tuned to that.

PILLER
She's not kidding.

PICARDO
That was a closed set that day.

QUESTION
For the producers, some people have felt that many of the storylines are very close to ones from the original "Star Trek" series? Was that intentional on your part and will that continue?

BERMAN
Yes, we try to steal stories, that's our basic objective. [laughter]

TAYLOR
Most of us are not that familiar with the original series. So I think you all know that there are so many stories in the universe and what's important is the way they're told. And while we did want to return to the original series in the sense of that being out in the unknown, that sense of adventure that you're going out there where no one has gone before, that's the reason we put them in the Delta Quadrant, to get away from the familiarity.

That was a conscious attempt to rekindle that sense of adventure. But in terms of storylines, of course not, we try to tell fresh stories as uniquely as we can.

BERMAN
There have been over 350 hours in "Star Trek" produced, and I would challenge anybody to come up with a story that would not relate in some way to one of those 350 stories.

There's always going to be comparisons and similarities between stories about a group of people on a space ship that lasts approximately 45 minutes. So we try -- we try very hard.

We've had stories that have been pitched and discussed, that we all like, and someone will -- and some of them come out of our own heads, and then we realize, my God, somebody comes in and says, "That's Episode 24 of the original series, called 'The Blossoms of Katiria 3,'" or something like that, and none of us ever saw it. [laughter]

But the potential of similarity is always there when you have so many episodes.

PILLER
But, I mean, it's a litmus test that we put through every idea in the room: what does this touch that we've done before? How do we make it different if it's in a, you know, certain genre -- time travel, or whatever it is? How do we get away from what we've done before and do something fresh and new?

We always ask the question.

QUESTION
How many episodes did you make last season? And how many will you make this season?

And you talked about reruns a little bit. Can you tell me maybe what the rerun pattern might be like, if you know?

BERMAN
That's really a question, I think to ask to the UPN people, as opposed to us. What were you going to say, Jeri?

TAYLOR
Well, we made 20 hours, including the two-hour pilot. Four of those hours have not yet been seen.

I believe we are contracted to do 22, with the possibility of extending to 26 this next year.

SULLIVAN
And as far as the rerun pattern, we premiere the last week in August with the first original episode, and we're pretty much in originals, I think -- with one preemption and maybe one rerun in October -- through the end of the November Sweeps period.

You know, also, as far as addressing what was said earlier, as far as UPN's surprise at the fall-off in rerun numbers this summer, I think that's everyone's surprise in the industry. This is an industry-wide phenomenon we're seeing, where reruns are off by three or four sharepoints.

And that's not unique to "Star Trek: Voyager." We're thrilled with "Star Trek: Voyager's" performance in the original episodes that we've seen so far.

QUESTION
Let me ask Robert or Roxanne -- originally, the idea of this show -- one of the ideas was there was going to be more dissension and more battle because these rebels were going to be on the Enterprise ship, and there was going to be a lot of people mad at each other--

BERMAN
Voyager.

QUESTION
--and more drama. Yeah, Voyager, yeah, I'm sorry. And now it seems like your characters so far have had to be pretty moderate. You haven't shown that angry side very often.

Do both of you wish you'd be showing more edge? Do you expect your characters will be edgier next year?

BELTRAN
I'm still trying to wrack my brains thinking of how my life has changed. [laughter] I know that I can buy coach on any airline, and get upgraded to first-class -- nice perk. [laughter]

But edgier -- you know, I don't know what you can do to -- I mean, you can only have so many arguments in an episode, you know, with the Maquis and the Federation.

I did get to punch out one guy. I don't know if that episode's been shown. I'd like to see -- do some more of that kind of stuff -- [laughter] -- punching out.

And if they can find an alien girl for me to meet once in awhile, it would be nice. [laughter]

SULLIVAN
Is there anyone in the cast you'd really like to punch out? [laughter]

RUSS
Here, now?

BELTRAN
No. The guys who get punched out are usually--

BIGGS-DAWSON
Two -- Robert, I think I've punched out more people than you have. [laughter]

BELTRAN
That's true.

BIGGS-DAWSON
I'm just up by one, I think, but we're sort of keeping tabs--

RUSS
I think they've done a very good job--

BIGGS-DAWSON
--seeing who we've punched out--

RUSS
--of maintaining the tension level between myself and Chakotay because of what occurred in the pilot, being an undercover agent on his ship.

I think that many of the scenes that we've played have always had an undercurrent of tension.

BELTRAN
Yeah.

RUSS
There's been at least four or five scenes.

BELTRAN
Right.

BERMAN
Obviously these people are going to come closer together after 20 episodes of being on the same ship. But I think we have no intention of making that conflict disappear.

QUESTION
Speaking of punch-outs -- oh, I'm sorry, did you want to--

PICARDO
I was going to say that the holographic doctor will continue to have thinly disguised contempt for everyone on the ship. [laughter]

QUESTION
Speaking of punch-outs and all that, I was wondering if you guys could maybe talk about some of the more exciting -- some of the things that you've gotten to do that you've really enjoyed.

I mean, this show gives opportunities for, you know, action-adventure, all that stuff, that other shows don't give. And, you know, getting to throw yourselves across the bridge, or just something that you've really enjoyed doing, or maybe not enjoyed doing, I don't know.

BIGGS-DAWSON
I think Ethan wanted to talk about his make-up. [laughter]

PHILLIPS
I get the girl for the first time in my whole career. [laughter]

RUSS
Myself, I've had an opportunity to do more stunts of my own, without having to have someone do them for me, which is always nice. It's a nice thing to do because I think it helps the way the scene plays out. So, that's been something that's been a lot of fun.

MULGREW
And never forget that the language in and of itself is an extraordinary challenge [laughter] still for me every day. That's the essence of the--

BELTRAN
Plus -- yeah -- with a lot of stunts, the suits get wrinkled, and that's not good. [laughter]

QUESTION
This is for Robert Picardo -- will you be getting on to an M Class planet, or off the ship this year, be transferred instead of just to the holodeck?

PICARDO
This is another one of those questions when I have no idea what the answer is -- [laughter] -- but I must give you a charming, witty and brief response. [laughter]

I think that that's something we can look forward to -- [laughter] -- in the holographic doctor's future, however I'd like to point out that some of the most interesting things about the character are his limitations. And if we solve them all too quickly, [laughter] well, then I'll have nothing left to do. [laughter]

So I think I'm going to get to an M Class planet sooner or later. I'll probably get into a Hard Rock Cafe sooner or later. [laughter] I don't know what the time-frame is. These gentlemen on the end keep -- and ladies at the end -- keep that a carefully guarded secret.

QUESTION
With most of the "Star Trek" series, there seems to be relationships among the large ensembles that get discovered as the series goes along -- the Quark-Odo relationship, the O'Brien-Bashir relationship.

I'm wondering if, for the actors or the writers, are there relationships between the characters that you've discovered that have yielded hidden treasures that you didn't anticipate as you were creating the series originally.

TAYLOR
I think that's still unfolding. When I said we don't think ahead, that's for a reason. If you set a goal and try to reach it, then all you can do is get to your preconceived notion.

So we never say, you know, I think it'll be cool if we had a relationship between B'Elanna and Tuvok. If you try to force something like that, then it just doesn't work as well as if you let the stories unfold and sometimes you get on to something -- one scene can then become an arc between two people which will play out for a season or even more.

PILLER
I think the Kes-Doctor relationship is an example. When we started, we sort of looked at each other and said, what are we going to do with these characters, and you know, where are the stories going to come from?

And yet, I think that the relationship between those two, and the growth of both of them into the medical situation and supporting one another in a personal way, has really reaped terrific rewards. And it seems very popular from the feedback we're getting.

SULLIVAN
Last question.

QUESTION
I don't think any of the -- are there any "Star Trek: Voyager" action figures out yet -- the toys?

MULGREW
I think they're coming because a box arrived at my house a month ago, and I am not kidding, it was this [demonstrates] big. And it took me four hours to find a head this big inside -- [laughter] -- wrapped up in the bubble thing.

So I think they're coming... headless creatures.

QUESTION
I was wondering what the sensation is, for anybody here, whether you have any say in how your action figure looks.

There's always a major line of toys to do with any of the "Star Trek" things. Some look more like you than others, but do they consult you at all, or do they just look at a picture and it's as big a surprise to you as anyone else when you get the toy, or see what it looks like?

PICARDO
Well, photographs where we had our back to the -- they took pictures of all of our butts individually. [laughter] So--

MULGREW
That was an interesting day.

BELTRAN
I can assure you, William Shatner has some percentage of it, whatever it is. [laughter]

SULLIVAN
Real quick -- one more.

QUESTION
A real quick one -- when any group of people get together, certain personalities emerge in your ensemble. Who is the class clown, who's the intellectual -- [laughter]?

Kate, would you field that question? Whols the class clown in your group?

MULGREW
Who is the class clown? Why don't we all take a big -- [laughter] -- my two compatriots here do a splendid job.

Who is the intellectual on this--

TAYLOR
Here.

RUSS
Oh, no! [he laughs] [laughter] I think you need to spend a few minutes with us on the bridge any given day of the week [laughter], and you will see quite a bit of clowning, from the turbolift to the helm, I think it covers quite a span--

MULGREW
Why are you looking at me?!

RUSS
Who me? And even our illustrious captain. [laughter] You'd be quite surprised by what goes on in there.

MULGREW
Yeah. The chemistry is terrific.

RUSS
It's great.

SULLIVAN
Thank you all very much. [applause]

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